Woop woop... progress! So... some bullshit I want to say to this part: I think Snoke and Kylo Ren are an interesting case... they're not Sith. We have no bloody clue what Snoke is. And I can see Ren being a bit arrogant and just so full with himself to actually rebel here and there. Not to much... but to a certain degree. So... just you know, bear with me here. I have (I think) a pretty good idea about the dispute I was wondering about actually since I first saw TFA. I like to throw a lot of Story bits at people and resolve them a lot lot lot later. So... I hope you stick with me.